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Noel Jenkins

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Re: You need to read this...
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2011, 11:31:53 AM »

I haven't read this stuff yet, but I will do. Can I check something though - frei skools and academies are free to ignore everything the government says aren't they?

Yes but think about the impact on the GCSE exams!

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2011, 11:45:29 AM »
If this comes to pass then I may rethink my position completely and look for pastures new. This will not make me or my pupils happy.

What have all of us on here been doing for the past 5+ years creating amazing stuff and imo the best subject available in schools if we have to go back 30 years and become the 'joke' colouring in lesson again.

Just stated looking at the doc and it seems that environmental geography has disappeared, have the ice caps stopped melting and climate change vanished and i missed it???  ???
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2011, 12:12:08 PM »
Is it that bad?
I have to say most of my students are keen to learn about different countries particularily "random" ones. In NI our curriculum is very open and there is lots of opportunity to leave our schemes and take off on little adventures in the classroom- the students are always really keen to learn about life in Laos for example.
I guess the difference here is that we choose what we want to study rather than being dictated to.........

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2011, 12:37:15 PM »
What is bad is that it is a complete 'blue-wash' curriculum overloaded with content to keep the little buggers busy - stuff that can be tested, knowledge, locations, how much, how many, definitions, no need to explore values or different viewpoints, nothing that is problematic in case it seems 'political'.

Nothing about deforestation of rainforests, global warming, Fair Trade, eutrophication, colonialism etc etc - anything that might prove controversial or provoke discussion/thought/criticism has been cut and replaced by 'safe' factual content about how things are manufactured and how farming produces our food ( thank you Mr Farmer - what was your CAP payment this year?), dams as great feats of engineering, new crops as great feats of new science. All these countries trying desperately to be capitalist success models like us - if only they pulled their socks up a bit and paid attention.

I thought that the current government thinking was to give teachers and schools freedom and independence.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2011, 12:44:24 PM »
Where are the English Universities in this, as this is a proposed new curriculum for England  ...... is there no one in an English University Geography department who wants to have a say?

Since when has the education of the nation depended upon the unchallenged views of a single individual?

Where does it all leave IGCSE? No change we hope.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2011, 12:48:43 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2011, 03:21:26 PM »
So, let me get this right, according to Standish, students not choosing to continue geography to KS4 will have no idea about some of the major areas in the world today - USA, China etc. because his model says we do those at GCSE.  Hmmm...

Did environmental geography do something wrong?  Perhaps students expressing opinions over issues is unacceptable?  Or perhaps it is harder to test!?

Whilst I agree we should have high expectations of pupils, Standish suggests state schools and private schools should have the same expectations - absolutely, but I teach classes of 32 - show me a private school that does that!  My expectations for my pupils are extremely high (and the FFT and ALIS targets are often higher!) but lets be realistic - the two situations are not comparable.  Grrr...

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2011, 04:31:29 PM »
Where are the English Universities in this, as this is a proposed new curriculum for England  ...... is there no one in an English University Geography department who wants to have a say?

Since when has the education of the nation depended upon the unchallenged views of a single individual?

Where does it all leave IGCSE? No change we hope.

I've taken the liberty of contacting over 2,000 lecturers via the Crit Geog list. There are some like Tim Hall and Jo Norcup who are sympathetic. I'll pass on any feedback I get. Presumably the GA establishment figures are working like crazy behind the scenes.

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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2011, 05:04:30 PM »
Just discovered this... Shocking.

Well, we knew this was coming but I naively didn't anticipate it being quite so uninspiring and prescriptive. Did he not understand the brief? Frankly, it looks awful.

All the work that departments have done on curriculum making, and having the freedom to design a coherent curriculum... To take that away from us is beyond the pale. 


I will not be able to get out of bed tomorrow unless I feel like I'm doing something about this. As a subject community, we can't take this lying down.

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2011, 05:13:50 PM »
I'd like to say 'Ignore it' but unfortunately it will all be designed to lead into the GCSE exams - they'll be crafty like that.

Surely the Government aren't going to have the Geography curriculum written by some American academic????? Then again with this lot...  :(

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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2011, 05:40:37 PM »
I predict a #geographyriot

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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2011, 05:41:27 PM »
Surely the Government aren't going to have the Geography curriculum written by some American academic????? Then again with this lot...  :(

At the risk of being pedantic, Alex Standish is a British academic working in the U.S. But the point is still a good one; American degree programmes still include plenty of regional geography, and some of the physical geography specialisms you'd expect to see in British Geography degree programmes are more typically found in geology programmes. In other words, the remit of Geography in the US differs somewhat from that in this country, at least in H.E.. Given these differences, I have some reservations about both the process and outcome so far.


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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2011, 06:10:36 PM »
What strikes me as bonkers and totally unworkable is the progression through the key stages from the UK (KS1) to Europe (KS2) to some parts of the world eg Africa (KS3) and the other parts eg Americas (KS4) - so does that mean we shouldn't teach about the UK to our KS3 students, or about Africa at GCSE?!! Oh no - what if primary schools don't do their bit?!! And what about those who don't take it for GCSE - they may never get to know about the USA!!!! Lordy Lord, chaos will reign!!!!

We teach small fab topics at KS3 and have spent the whole of the last 2 years reinvigorating and reintroducing these and writing new SoW eg War and Conflict, RRR, Global Issues, The Underworld - not to mention the fact we're still trying to sort out our GCSE course (have switched a couple of topics already in the last couple of years). PLEASE let us have 2-3 years where we don't have to change anything else!!!!!!

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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2011, 06:24:40 PM »
Is there anything on planning, conservation, greenfield/brownfield, housing?

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Re: You need to read this...
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2011, 07:41:29 PM »

I haven't read this stuff yet, but I will do. Can I check something though - frei skools and academies are free to ignore everything the government says aren't they?

Yes but think about the impact on the GCSE exams!

My assumption was this was KS3 only - but I'll not have time to read it for a while yet so don't shoot me yet :-)
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