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Re: APP grid
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2009, 01:58:10 PM »

The RGS on Thursday 26th November 2009 have a Teacher's CPD Day... New GCSE's and Polar Resources.
As part of the timetabled activities David Gardner (QCDA) will be talking about Geography APP.
See link below and then download the programme. Hope this is useful.

http://www.rgs.org/WhatsOn/Training+and+CPD/Teacher+CPD.htm
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2009, 08:31:41 PM »
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www.worldlywise.pbworks.com - support for the new AQA(B) GCSE
www.chestertoncurriculum.org.uk/geography - departmental homepage

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« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2009, 06:30:43 PM »
Thank you!

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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2009, 09:22:46 PM »
We have being looking to simplify our pupil speak levels and this format works really well. Thanks to both of you for taking the time to produce these.  I have just scribbled a few points down as I read through them and can see we could really use this usefully to design our new assessments for KS3 in November and to look in more detail at our own worksheets for peer assessments....  A great set of resources, thanks again.

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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2009, 07:31:08 PM »
Thank you so much for this really useful document.  You have shed a lot of light!

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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2009, 10:14:17 PM »
some advice needed....

we currently 'do' formal NC levelled assessments 6 times a year (we only have 1 lesson a week)
afl is used -ie criteria shared and work is marked using a grid for the different AF and relevent NC level for that AF
pupils evaluate their own/peers work using the 3 stars and a wish/WWW/EBI principles
the level  the pupil got is written with the work and also on a template sheet at the front of the book

the question is.....do i then also need an APP grid for each pupil or is this just repetitious?? I have a feeling that I am covering the bases with the system we have but somtimes you can't see the wood for the trees!! We have OFSTED coming up and i want to get it as right as i can. I have just adjusted a doc i got from somewhere into a passport type thing with level AF descriptors for each level but now i am not sure i need it as we will spend more time filling in evidence sheets to show progress than actually making progress!

Does this make sense to anyone? Any response gratefully received.

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Re: APP grid
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2009, 12:17:59 AM »
the question is.....do i then also need an APP grid for each pupil or is this just repetitious?? I have a feeling that I am covering the bases with the system we have but somtimes you can't see the wood for the trees!! We have OFSTED coming up and i want to get it as right as i can.

APP is non-statutory - they can't make you do it :)

It's also not been actually released yet for geography. I think it says that somewhere earlier in this thread - iirc the release date is next year - there will be strategy meetings on it...

The stuff people have done here is guess work.

You have Ofsted coming up. Concentrate on that (and everything else you've already got to cope with anyway...) and don't worry about the filling in more evidence sheets and trying to get your head around a system that is only a guess anyway.

When it comes out take a look at it and decide if you like it. I dunno how different it'll be to the ideas people have been having. I know what I think, but noone'll know until the real ones start to appear - and then they may tweak a bit before the final one come out. We've adapted some of the IT stuff (which is my gig nowadays and is out already), but we don't use it lock, stock and barrel - we take what we like and simplify it a bit to make it more useful for us in our situation. I know that if I'd taken the NC criteria for ICT and tried to come up with my own APP stuff before it appeared that it would have been hopelessly different - but that's prolly just me being rubbish :)

I agree: make progress :D
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« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2009, 09:26:55 AM »
some advice needed....

we currently 'do' formal NC levelled assessments 6 times a year (we only have 1 lesson a week)
afl is used -ie criteria shared and work is marked using a grid for the different AF and relevent NC level for that AF
pupils evaluate their own/peers work using the 3 stars and a wish/WWW/EBI principles
the level  the pupil got is written with the work and also on a template sheet at the front of the book

the question is.....do i then also need an APP grid for each pupil or is this just repetitious?? I have a feeling that I am covering the bases with the system we have but somtimes you can't see the wood for the trees!! We have OFSTED coming up and i want to get it as right as i can. I have just adjusted a doc i got from somewhere into a passport type thing with level AF descriptors for each level but now i am not sure i need it as we will spend more time filling in evidence sheets to show progress than actually making progress!

Does this make sense to anyone? Any response gratefully received.



It seems as if you're doing lots for AfL and assessment.
We had similar tasks well established. We've used the APP grids to evaluate our existing assessments - is there consistency and progression? Are there any areas of assessment not being covered?
The new KS3 gives so many opportunities for trying different forms of assessment, and I think the APP grids support this. For example I'm trialling using them for a sample of pupils when they are doing group work - I can focus on a few students and identify progress. I think they're potentially very useful for those pupils that you know are good at geography but their assessments don't reflect their understanding. You could annotate with dates to provide evidence.
We're also going to have a department meeting to develop a portfolio of sample work - I think the process of doing that will help develop understanding of progress in geography (there are 2 non-specialists).
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Re: APP grid
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2009, 10:49:39 AM »
The new KS3 gives so many opportunities for trying different forms of assessment, and I think the APP grids support this. For example I'm trialling using them for a sample of pupils when they are doing group work - I can focus on a few students and identify progress. I think they're potentially very useful for those pupils that you know are good at geography but their assessments don't reflect their understanding. You could annotate with dates to provide evidence.

Interesting to read this.

I was doing a spot of sorting over the weekend and came across one of the original KS3 assessment booklets for geography - I think they came out in about 95ish, so it must have been the second version of the NC I spose.

It was the tectonic booklet. I *think* David Leat et al must have written it - it was where the Mrs Endo stuff came from iirc (or where it got out to lots of people anyway). Also had a group (I think) task about the Kanto quake iirc - using annotation on an A3 (?) poster showing interlinkages between causation factors.

Fantastic stuff. And all designed specifically for assessment.

I spose these booklets have gone out of departments nowadays? Just that it strikes me as stuff that'd be really useful to have a look at when you're trialling this stuff you're talking about - iirc it was pretty well trialled. I know it worked really effectively as an assessment, although you obviously needed to circulate around the room quite well to get a handle on what was what and write it up quite quickly afterwards (I used tofind <10 words per student was plenty fwiw).

I don't spose these books are available anywhere on the web are they? There was one on the Norfolk coast that had a bunch of maps. Can't remember what the other ones were about - I think I threw them and only kept the Tectonics one because it was the coolest official (it was govt produced official guidance) stuff I'd ever seen.

Maybe, if it's not still around, I'll think about scanning it at some point if people would be interested - I guess there's lots of people who might never have seen this stuff.
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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2009, 04:26:33 PM »
I am taking this from 4 shared and passing it all off as my own work.  Only joking - i know exactly what you mean about some people and their manners!

Never mind i appreciate you and somewhere out there someone (else) appreciates me - so i am told.

These are exactly what we were talking aobut in CPD and fit the bill perfectly.

If there is anything you need help yourself on our intranet pages - i have emailed you the password and login.

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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2009, 04:51:30 PM »
I remember the booklets you talk about BST
There's details on one of them here:
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/educol/documents/000000383.htm

They were produced in the days when QCA, now QCDA, was SCAA....
Still used the Norfolk maps when I taught - good local examples of erosion...

I am currently putting together some resources on assessment for a conference in Norfolk next week, and will put on Slideshare after the event.

I will also be at the RGS-IBG event in November that Graham mentioned, complete with some GA materials for your delectation and delight.

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Re: APP grid
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2009, 07:16:02 PM »
I remember the booklets you talk about BST
There's details on one of them here:
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/educol/documents/000000383.htm

Thank you so much Alan - that's a fabulous insight: just the sort of thing that I need to be reminded of every now and again (my Leat books are off with an IT advisor while we try and mine some of that, err, cutting edge approach for ICT teaching - believe me, some of that would be seen as absolute rocket surgery...)

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They were produced in the days when QCA, now QCDA, was SCAA....
Still used the Norfolk maps when I taught - good local examples of erosion...

Gosh, I'd forgotten about SCAA you know...

I assume the optional test stuff isn't really available as a set of resources (online or not) any more? A shame - perhaps someone who is closer to QCDA might want to ask if there's a way they could be put in the public domain as copyright commons? (although I presume the OS maps might be trickier to get agreement on).
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2009, 07:37:32 PM »
Have read the links with interest - but am a little confused, what is;
" pupils evaluate their own/peers work using the 3 stars and a wish/WWW/EBI principles?" Thanks!

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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2009, 08:08:19 PM »
Vickid:

Three stars and a wish (or two stars and a wish as it is in our feeder primaries) is where students mark their own or each other's work and identify three things that were done well (stars) and one thing that could be improved (wish).

WWW/EBI - What Went Well, Even Better If.

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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2009, 08:42:26 PM »
Thanks! guessed it would be something obvious!

 

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