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Title: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: davevade on May 18, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
I want to teach my 2 mixed ability Year 9 classes about the arguments that Global Warming is causes by humans/a natural process.

Ideally, I would like one website that can succinctly balance the arguments in language that KS3 students will understand. There is obviously loads of stuff out there, but most is a little too scientific for me to use. Are there any websites aimed at Year 9s that anyone knows of?

I have so far only found:

http://www.yourclimateyourlife.org.uk/

Which is a little too brief.

Thanks, Dave.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: aberrantbee on May 18, 2009, 09:29:07 PM
show then 'An inconvenient truth'
'the great global warming swindle [about £3]'

and ask them what they think
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on May 18, 2009, 10:05:28 PM
Too many, err, lies in GGWS for sure. Serious, serious issues with the way the science is presented.

AIT we know has some issues with regard to some aspects of it. GGWS is far, far beyond that - I woudn't use it with mixed ability Year 9 for sure.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: zyxwvut on May 19, 2009, 12:07:22 AM
I'm in the process of looking out resources on global warming for the same age group and have had similar problems finding suitable websites. You might be able to use/adapt information from the following sites - depending on what you want to do with the class I suppose. A couple of the sites are aimed at younger kids so please feel free to ignore! Teachers TV also has some short videos that would probably be useful.

http://www.ngfl-cymru.org.uk/vtc/ngfl/2007-08/geog/G1%20Climate%20change/index.html (http://www.ngfl-cymru.org.uk/vtc/ngfl/2007-08/geog/G1%20Climate%20change/index.html)

http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/guides/shout_about_climate_soluti0.pdf (http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/guides/shout_about_climate_soluti0.pdf)

http://epa.gov/climatechange/kids/cc.html (http://epa.gov/climatechange/kids/cc.html)

http://tiki.oneworld.net/global_warming/climate_home.html (http://tiki.oneworld.net/global_warming/climate_home.html)

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/antenna/climatechange/ (http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/antenna/climatechange/)
- there is a climate change game on this site that looks quite good

Let me know if you find one single website that covers all the issues at the right level!
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Sarah_J on May 19, 2009, 09:29:42 PM
There is an activty looking athe arguments used in the great global warming swindle on the Scince upd8 website (plus others on global warming which are really good too) - a great website actually for lots of things I find!
http://www.upd8.org.uk/activity/266/Global-Warming-Swindle.html
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on May 19, 2009, 09:55:58 PM
There is an activty looking athe arguments used in the great global warming swindle on the Scince upd8 website (plus others on global warming which are really good too) - a great website actually for lots of things I find!
http://www.upd8.org.uk/activity/266/Global-Warming-Swindle.html

Ah, the good old give the kids a piece of paper to consider "facts" but there's actually 2 different sets of pov on the papers scam :-)

Good place to use this sort of thing. Love the HSW aspect as well - ta.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: gazz on May 20, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
Every time I here the words 'An inconvenient truth' a cold shudder goes down my spine.

I've seen that film so many times, his voice!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :o
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: davevade on May 20, 2009, 12:01:57 PM
Thanks everyone,

I went my own way in the end and gave them a whole series of articles off the BBC website for them to read and research in pairs. It was surprising how little there was out there that could be aimed at KS3 students, in my opinion.

A quick search in Google seems to throw up a lot of high brow sciencey stuff. I was also disappointed to see that websites like www.ipcc.ch are still very much technical, sciencey websites offering very little for lay members of the public, let alone mixed ability year 9s!

I can provide the links I used and worksheet I developed off it if anyone wants it.

Dave.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on May 20, 2009, 12:46:06 PM
A quick search in Google seems to throw up a lot of high brow sciencey stuff. I was also disappointed to see that websites like www.ipcc.ch are still very much technical, sciencey websites offering very little for lay members of the public, let alone mixed ability year 9s!

I don't think that's unreasonable at all that the ipcc has high brow, thorough scientific stuff on it. Half the problem with the whole climate change debate happens when people try to simplify it, letting the vested interests point out "inconsistencies". The fact is that it *is* complex and not brialliantly understood. If the IPCC tried to stick it in a munchkin format they'd be slaughtered by people like Pat Michaels and Soon et al with their oil company pay cheques, and the information they put up would be used as "evidence" that they were simplifying.

Hell, look at how something like the hockey stick gets misrepresented.

If you don't believe me, try hanging out on various US based forums for a while. Choose something that's not necessarily scientific but has some kind of political sub forum on it (I hang out on baseball related places...).

New Scientist has a section of climate change that has a FAQy sort of section in it. It's still quite complex, but probably a little more accessible.

What's the solution? Heck, teach that it's complex. Teach that it's important to understand how science works and that there's lots of all sorts of different bits of evidence that need to be tied together in an effective way. And teach that we don't know for sure, but that we can take that evidence and draw conclusions from it and that those conlcusions seem to point towards suggesting a conclusion which is increasingly reliable.

It's interesting to compare the figures for stuff like sea level rise confidence limits from the various ipcc reports. The way these have been adjusted and compared to the actual events is quite interesting in itself.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: swhitch on May 20, 2009, 03:29:31 PM
On Sea Level rise: An interesting report on the nature of Sea Level change on the Essex Coast from the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research

http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/research/theme4/workshop1/chapter_5.pdf  (Worth a read)

"Relative sea levels on this coast have been rising for several thousand years because of isostatic
rebound at a rate of 1-1.5 mm year. Saltmarshes developed over most of this period until about
50 years ago when erosion became prevalent (Boorman et al. 1989). The first requirement for
coastal squeeze, a significant rise in sea level, does not seem to have occurred over the past
half-century. Data from the POL PSMSL (http://www.pol.ac.uk/psmsl/) for Southend (the
station closest to our research sites) show a mean rise of 1.25 mm per year (Fig. 2), but with
large variations in the mean monthly data, the rise is not a significant one. Moreover, the data
for the past 50 years, the period of marsh erosion, show no overall rise in sea level (Fig. 3).
More recent data for Felixstowe, Suffolk show a mean fall in sea level of 3 mm.y-1 (Fig. 4).
Thus the evidence indicates that, at the very least, sea levels have not risen sufficiently over the
past half-century to explain the saltmarsh losses."

Stuart
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: swhitch on May 20, 2009, 11:35:52 PM
Not quite the causes,  more the consequences: read the news, pay your money, take your choice !


14/05/09

The collapse of a major polar ice sheet will not raise global sea levels as much as previous projections suggest, a team of scientists has calculated.

But Professor Bamber said that no-one had revisited the calculation, despite new data sets becoming available, and scientists developing a better understanding of the dynamics in the vast ice sheets.

The original estimates were based on "very basic ice thickness data", he explained.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8050094.stm



10/03/09
The global sea level looks set to rise far higher than forecast because of changes in the polar ice-sheets, a team of researchers has suggested.

Scientists at a climate change summit in Copenhagen said earlier UN estimates were too low and that sea levels could rise by a metre or more by 2100.

The projections did not include the potential impact of polar melting and ice breaking off, they added.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7935159.stm

Stuart  ???
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on May 21, 2009, 07:25:14 AM
In general iirc the ipcc estimates from the previous reports have tended to be under estimates of sea level change. I'm pretty certain there's solid data to back it up - but you do need to go into the detail of the ipcc reports (they make a really good half term read... :)) rather than the press headlines.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: davevade on May 21, 2009, 11:43:51 AM


I don't think that's unreasonable at all that the ipcc has high brow, thorough scientific stuff on it. Half the problem with the whole climate change debate happens when people try to simplify it, letting the vested interests point out "inconsistencies". The fact is that it *is* complex and not brialliantly understood. If the IPCC tried to stick it in a munchkin format they'd be slaughtered by people like Pat Michaels and Soon et al with their oil company pay cheques, and the information they put up would be used as "evidence" that they were simplifying.


My point wasn't that the IPCC should be less sciencey. My point was that they should provide some kind of parallel content that can be read by general members of the public or KS3 pupils. Look at their website - there's nothing there for people who might be interested but aren't geographers or scientists. If you can't summarise content then you've got no way of persuading people. IN MY OPINION anyway.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on May 21, 2009, 12:17:29 PM
My point wasn't that the IPCC should be less sciencey. My point was that they should provide some kind of parallel content that can be read by general members of the public or KS3 pupils. Look at their website - there's nothing there for people who might be interested but aren't geographers or scientists. If you can't summarise content then you've got no way of persuading people. IN MY OPINION anyway.

I appreciate that. My problem is simply that as soon as that simplistic summary (which, lets face it, all of what we teach kids about climate change is) appears on the ipcc website I could certainly see it being picked up by the loonspud fringe and quoted as the ipcc "dumming down the science on their website". I've seen that sort of thing done anyway - there's lot of examples of the vested interests elements quoting research so selectively anyway.

I'm sure there's a case for some kind of kiddie friendly summary. Tbh I'm not sure I'd like to write it as I'd be bound to miss something that someone thought was important out...

I kinda like the ipcc stuff. It's good that it's a massive summary as, to me, it demonstrates the central complexity of the issue. Fwiw it's *not* in the ipcc remit to persuade anybody to do anything afaik. It's their remit to present a summary of the evidence and to monitor. It's politicians and pressure groups who have to do the persuasion - which, amongst other stuff, demonstrates the issue with science in the public view.

But anyway - anyone want to give a quick summary of the ipcc's findings a go? :)
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: kevincooper777 on May 23, 2009, 12:55:46 PM
Read this thread with interest.

Whilst looking for something else, came across this book - I read the 'search inside' bits and it sounds like it might be a valuable source of information written for the layman / student - I recommend others trying to find a pitch for teaching about this topic to read the 'search inside' bits - only 5 mins, but sets the scene really well.  For A-level teachers, I suggest it could be good background reading / library book.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0954452933/ref=sib_rdr_dp ("Sustainable Energy - Without the Hot Air")
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: kevincooper777 on May 23, 2009, 01:05:14 PM
I  feel teaching about climate change - which we are all required to do, by new KS3 as well as by GCSE / A-level Specs - is fraught with difficulty.

I have read a number of posts by Stuart Hitch on this forum that make me think he feels it important to put forward a more sceptical view than has become the norm in the past few years - to counteract the hype and Orwellian think-speak that has begun to dominate in the climate change / global warming debate.  Apologies if I have misconstrued this Stuart.

Others (BST? - again, forgive me if I am wrong) seem a little incredulous that anyone could possibly be putting doubt in the minds of young people that anything other than a total commitment to reducing our carbon footprint might be OK - I suppose there is an 'Inconvenient Truth'-type argument here that the safe option IS total commitment to reducing greenhouse gases - even if it makes no difference, or sea-levels do not rise as they are predicted, it's not the end of the world, and probably will have generated some positive side-effects, like increase in health and fitness from less use of cars, etc., etc. - whereas if it turns out to be right, and we did nothing....

As posts in this thread have indicated, it is hard to know where to pitch things.  I found it hard when writing the CGP pages on this for the new AS-level guide (p76-85 if you have it) - the Edexcel Spec seemed to be quite 'PC' about it all, but I felt it important to avoid sweeping statements and over-confident conclusions, prefering to use phrases like "many / most researchers believe...", "there seems to be increasing amounts of evidence to support the view that..." etc.

I think there is fantastic 'thinking skills' type stuff here - e.g. seeing views on climate change as a SPECTRUM of possibilities rather than bi-polar - and I believe it is important to suggest to the students that there are lots of intelligent and sincere academics who take up positions almost right across the spectrum of views. 

Awareness of possible bias is another vitally important angle to explore - but even there I think we need to be wary about being TOO confident in concluding that e.g. Soon et al are motivated by their 'oil company pay cheques' to put forward views and policies which are patently scientifically snd morally wrong.

I also think we have a moral obligation to say to the students "this is what I think, but please be aware that (a) I am no expert; (b) many people have views different from my own" - and also to encourage them to develop their own views based on evidence and considered thought - whilst also being aware that they might well be wrong.

How do others pitch things?
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: swhitch on May 24, 2009, 12:39:06 PM
I try to provide students the opportunity to think for themsleves, after all that is real learning isn't it? If this involves providing them with data that does not fit the percieved wisdom then so be it. The choice the students make is theirs not one that has been imposed upon them.

Stuart
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: kevincooper777 on May 25, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
I try to provide students the opportunity to think for themsleves, after all that is real learning isn't it? If this involves providing them with data that does not fit the percieved wisdom then so be it. The choice the students make is theirs not one that has been imposed upon them.

Stuart

I quite agree - I have always tried to have this approach - I'm especially sensitive to it having taught in a so-called brain-washing creationist academy (a media construct - Sir Peter Vardy doesn't even believe in a 'young earth', though like most Christians he believes God made the earth).

But I'm interested to know whether or not I have misconstrued you Stuart when I say "I have read a number of posts by Stuart Hitch on this forum that make me think he feels it important to put forward a more sceptical view than has become the norm in the past few years - to counteract the hype and Orwellian think-speak that has begun to dominate in the climate change / global warming debate" - I am not trying to take up an antagonistic view, I am neutral on this one, but I am interested as I hear so little these days from teachers (or even the media) that challenges the now conventional view of the issue - i.e. more or less as put forward by Al Gore etc.

And I certainly think that encouraging a little healthy cynicism can't be such a bad thing (but then, how much is 'healthy' in a potentially world-changing issue like this?)
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: zyxwvut on May 25, 2009, 10:53:46 AM
Just came across this site when I was looking for something else. Although all the lesson plans etc. are set up for a Scottish audience there is an excellent links page. If you click through the 'Encyclopaedia of the Atmospheric Environment' link you'll find loads of information/resources designed for KS3 & KS4.

http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/climatechange/resources/index.asp (http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/climatechange/resources/index.asp)

 
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: swhitch on May 30, 2009, 12:39:03 AM
The thread is entitled "The Causes of Global Warming" ....... not "The Human Causes of Global Warming" and therefore one should assume that there maybe both natural and anthropogenic causes of climate change.

Whether or not I am sceptical of global warming is irrelevant what is relevant is that students are provided with all possible causes including the ones that do not fit the current wisdom being driven long and hard at them in all key stages and across a number of subjects. I would hope that good science sees the students make conclusions based on all the evidence they have reviewed and not first conclude only then to accept the evidence that fits their conclusion. We should be creating critical thinkers not robots.

In relation to global warming are we considering the following?

Polar regions free of permanent ice caps and covered with forest vegetation. In the northern high latitudes in the Canadian Arctic broad-leaved deciduous forests dominated by dawn redwood (Metasequoia) along with pines, spruce and larch. Flowering trees such as alder, birch, and hickory and animals such as turtles. Polar summers with relatively high temperatures (24 °C) and with winter temperatures that remain mild, even as far as 80°N.

If so that is actually a return to the PAST, the past of about 50 Million years ago according to Professor Jane Francis ( view the Geol. Soc Lecture here http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/gsl/site/GSL/lang/en/arctic )."Fifty million years ago during the Eocene the climate was globally warm with atmospheric CO2 levels much like those predicted for our future warm world."........... when humans had NO impact upon  CO2 and climate change and climate changed as a result of wholly natural fluctuations. The Geological record shows many periods of extreme climates both hot and cold.

A concerned student, or citizen, must surely ask "What caused this global warming 50 Million years ago when no humans were burning fossils fuels?", "Has it happened before in geological history and could it happen again?"

Any viewing of reliable data on global temperatures will show a great cyclicity between Ice Ages and Interglacials, way before any human influences were on the scene. Should students not be encouraged to ask: "What caused those Ice Ages? Why are they so cyclical? How and why did they end? etc. etc.

When predictions for the weather cannot be forecast accurately enough for a Bank Holiday weekend in Bournemouth ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5394066/Bournemouth-attacks-Met-Office-for-negative-forecasts-that-cost-millions.html ) then how, students may ask, can we rely on predictions for the climate for the next 100 years plus? Fortunately students are prepared to question and to challenge and they deserve to be provided with the range of "causes".

Seems immoral to have to tell students "Don't write this in an exam as you are unlikely to score highly but there are other causes to global warming than simply anthropogenic impacts".

Simply, there are many different causes and it is an awareness of the relative importance of these that is crucial to an understanding of what is actually going on.


Stuart
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: lidlest on May 31, 2009, 04:09:27 PM
Brilliant link - UPD8 stuff, I am going to use that with the powerpoint i made last year working through the inconvient truth , and do the activity comparing it with the GGWS. I know that my little eco-warriors will come down on the side that even if we may not be the cause of global warming there is no point polluting for pollutings sake. Ergo... i've totally pushed the sustainability agenda whilst letting them reach that conclusion themselves.

Thanks so much for that link, i was totally stuck in a funk with 5 lessons of work for 8 lesson.

x
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: kevincooper777 on June 01, 2009, 05:06:11 AM
Sorry to hijack a 'resources' thread with more philosophical stuff...

 - I would hope all teachers explain that climate fluctuations are a natural process - that has to be the baseline to then discuss the extent to which the human causes have altered the natural pattern (at A-level you have to do this, it's part of the Specs - don't know about new GCSEs)

 - I would also hope that teachers see as a vital part of their jobs the need to encourage students to analyse the evidence and come to their own conclusions rather than just take what anyone says uncritically (especially TV, but including us as teachers!) - and part of this for me is to raise the issue of 'greenwashing' - I suspect (possibly unfairly) that many teachers inadvertantly fail to do this

 - it is hard to say to a class, genuinely, "this is my view, but I could well be wrong" (especially in topics with such a high degree of complexity) - but VITAL, I believe - getting students, even at A-level, to consider 'degrees of certainty' is not easy - words like 'might', 'possibly', 'probably', 'almost certainly', 'current consensus is that...', 'it has been suggested that...' - an INSET on getting As at A2 I went on a few years ago (by Gill Miller) suggested that one of the key differentiators for recognising A-grade students was those who wrote clearly about 'grey areas'

Thanks for posting your stuff Stuart
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on June 01, 2009, 10:16:19 AM
Others (BST? - again, forgive me if I am wrong) seem a little incredulous that anyone could possibly be putting doubt in the minds of young people that anything other than a total commitment to reducing our carbon footprint might be OK - I suppose there is an 'Inconvenient Truth'-type argument here that the safe option IS total commitment to reducing greenhouse gases - even if it makes no difference, or sea-levels do not rise as they are predicted, it's not the end of the world, and probably will have generated some positive side-effects, like increase in health and fitness from less use of cars, etc., etc. - whereas if it turns out to be right, and we did nothing....

I tend to approach this more from a How Science Works perspective actually.

The fact that the data is incomplete and the hypothesis speculative is fantastic. It's exactly what we should be teaching.

The problems I have are: a) it's complex; b) there's a lot of very non-sexy work going on out there (and the ipcc stuff is very long and couched in non-specific terms very often); c) there's a hell of a lot of plain ignorance about a lot of that work.

The ignorance is my real issue. I see, regularly, blogs and so on picking up one part of a set of research findings. I see people in the pay of oil companies put forward incomplete evidence to support their pov on this. That's misleading at best, a downright lie at worst. The problem then is that this all gets picked up on by people and they take from it the idea that the theories (now, there's a word which justifies a HSW approach in itself) are essentially flawed.

I'm very happy to teach the issues with the evidence. From a scientific pov. This is what makes climate change (another phrase that causes so many doubts because of ignorance...) funky tbh.

Oh, ignorance isn't used in a specifically negative way in this btw. It's just that so many people don't know stuff.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on June 01, 2009, 10:24:57 AM
- I would hope all teachers explain that climate fluctuations are a natural process - that has to be the baseline to then discuss the extent to which the human causes have altered the natural pattern (at A-level you have to do this, it's part of the Specs - don't know about new GCSEs)

I'd agree with that entirely. But you have to understand, for example, when you're talking about the Maunder Minimum (aka little ice age) *for example* that all the data for that is based on studies of northern hemisphere - predominantly European and eastern North American - climates. There's actually some evidence that the temp fluctuations in the southern hemisphere were nowhere near as great.

And I'd suggest that that's a specific example of how "evidence" can be skewed in itself through nothing worse than a superficial look (there's a whole pile on this in the ipcc reports btw...)

- I would also hope that teachers see as a vital part of their jobs the need to encourage students to analyse the evidence and come to their own conclusions rather than just take what anyone says uncritically (especially TV, but including us as teachers!) - and part of this for me is to raise the issue of 'greenwashing' - I suspect (possibly unfairly) that many teachers inadvertantly fail to do this

Yep, agree totally. Bias identification is something we should be much more specific about in schools in general - there's a cross curricula theme that the guys in suits didn't decide to put into all their oh so useful stuff then...  ;)

- it is hard to say to a class, genuinely, "this is my view, but I could well be wrong" (especially in topics with such a high degree of complexity)...

See, that's where I'd disagree entirely. I've never had any problem whatsoever saying that I don't know or that this might not be the way it works.

The How Science Works emphasis now in science should make this easier (hmm....) - but even with stuff like plate tectonics we can put forward the basic idea - we think it works this way, the evidence points us to thinking this, but, you know, it could still be a big old turtle.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: kevincooper777 on June 01, 2009, 04:48:55 PM
Thanks BST, really interesting and educational.

As I say to the kids, I have no problem with ignorance - there's so much that I'm ignorant about, even in my 'specialist' fields - the important thing is to be aware of your (potential) ignorance.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: swhitch on June 18, 2009, 10:12:50 AM
Looks thought provoking and will give the students the chance to see how CC is affecting them at their very own post code ....... will be interesting to see how close the similarities are between neighbouring postcodes ......."Using a range of online tools including a "weather generator", people will be able to enter their postcodes and see projections of how conditions are likely to change within 25 sq km grid squares at different points in the future." Being pedantic should this really be a "climate predictor" rather than a "weather generator" as if there is going to be a problem we could simply generate some cooler weather / wetter weather couldn't we? Most geography students are drilled in the difference between climate and weather, aren't they?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8106104.stm

"The projected impacts are "worse than the government had feared," according to a source familiar with the project"

"....the picture it paints is an alarming one," said Keith Allott, head of climate change at WWF-UK."

"Campaigners say that the UK impacts are likely to be minor compared to other parts of the world.

Last month a report from the Global Humanitarian Forum, the think tank chaired by former UN secretary-general Kofi Annan, said that the UK was among the 12 countries likely to be least affected by climate change."

Stuart
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Andrew Stacey on June 18, 2009, 01:36:34 PM
Possibly today's publication of the UK Climate Projections 2009 report will throw some more detailed light onto things.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107014.stm
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: phill.monk on November 11, 2009, 05:56:55 PM
Every time I here the words 'An inconvenient truth' a cold shudder goes down my spine.

I've seen that film so many times, his voice!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :o

" Hi I'm Al Gore, I used to be the next president of the United States of America. "

Best bit of the whole film....after this, it all goes downhill.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on November 11, 2009, 07:12:33 PM
" Hi I'm Al Gore, I used to be the next president of the United States of America. "

Best bit of the whole film....after this, it all goes downhill.

I've never seen it - why does it go downhill?
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: IanMurray on November 11, 2009, 07:35:33 PM
Apart from what it might demand in specs and SOWs another aspect here is when do we kind of say:

'Job sort of done on that one, it's everywhere, let's be the pioneers for the next really important topic - what should it be?'

Ian Murray
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Blue Square Thing on November 11, 2009, 09:08:10 PM
Apart from what it might demand in specs and SOWs another aspect here is when do we kind of say:

'Job sort of done on that one, it's everywhere, let's be the pioneers for the next really important topic - what should it be?'

Ian Murray

Good point - I get the feeling it's increasingly done to death. The reasons for this worry me.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: davevade on November 12, 2009, 08:15:48 AM
Apart from what it might demand in specs and SOWs another aspect here is when do we kind of say:

'Job sort of done on that one, it's everywhere, let's be the pioneers for the next really important topic - what should it be?'

Ian Murray

The next important topic is getting people to actually do something about climate change, now that we all agree on what the causes are! Any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: IanMurray on November 12, 2009, 09:58:47 AM
Stay at home more ( says me with an avatar pic from Morocco).
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Alan Parkinson on November 12, 2009, 12:30:36 PM
Anybody interested in talking to a journalist about the way they teach Climate Change and related issues, and how important it is for young people ? Have had a request to identify some teachers, and no response from a few e-mails sent out so far today...

PM or e-mail me for more details if interested...
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Stephen Schwab on November 13, 2009, 04:08:53 PM
 ;)I replied in the affirmative Alan.
This topic fascinates me, one in a long line of ecoissues Geography has embraced.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: phill.monk on November 14, 2009, 09:59:32 PM
" Hi I'm Al Gore, I used to be the next president of the United States of America. "

Best bit of the whole film....after this, it all goes downhill.

I've never seen it - why does it go downhill?

well his stance on the subject is very strong, and he has a good argument for everyone to cut emissions etc however the way he goes about it is just pure boring.

another film to watch if anyone is into showing controversial material is "who killed the electric car" by Chris Paine.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: David Rogers on November 15, 2009, 08:49:22 AM
Inconvenient Truth is an excellent film to use in class when looking at how to structure and evidence an argument.  Then throw on the CH4 counter argument doc.

NC says pupils should be able to identify bias and respond to it - most media is very biased so some great resources.
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: Simon on February 07, 2015, 08:05:43 AM
The book Kevin mentioned can be downloaded as a pdf for free here... http://www.withouthotair.com
Title: Re: The Causes of Global Warming
Post by: kevincooper777 on February 14, 2015, 12:36:50 AM
Great, thanks Simon, good find :)
I'm lucky enough to be able to basically talk through the issues with my Y9 - though I have also made a powerpoint which goes through many misconceptions students have about global warming and they just have to say 'true', 'maybe' or 'false'...