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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Marie Louise on January 14, 2010, 06:40:09 PM

Title: Facebook
Post by: Marie Louise on January 14, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
Today I was informed by a rather upset student that there is a Facebook page dedicated to those who don't like me......nice......I don't think any staff have joined...yet!

I'm not familiar with Facebook at all , so don't know if it is possible to find out who created the page. I'd be really grateful if anyone out there could advise me.

Thanks ???
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Evlinda on January 14, 2010, 06:48:08 PM

So sorry to hear this- but there is something you can do- you need to check the page and see if it is open to the public- if it is then you can check it and see yourself.  If it is closed and therefore you have to be invited to join before you can see it then your school should contact Facebook.  This is potentially a police matter.

They can then get the site shut down for you- there has just been a similar thing between pupils at my school and the mum did just this and Facebook closed it down after the police printed pages out from it- as it was being used to post threats about the safety of this pupil.

Hope you can get this sorted quickly.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Marie Louise on January 14, 2010, 06:51:54 PM
Sorry to sound like a thicky but how do I know if it is a public or private page?
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Evlinda on January 14, 2010, 06:57:30 PM
That's ok- are you on Facebook? If so then just type in the name of the page into the search bar and it will come up- if you can see all the info like members, posts etc then it is open- if it comes up with a virtually blank page then it will also say that it is restricted and you must be a member to view the page... or something like this.  If you are not on Facebook then ask someone you know who is to have a look.  It will say on the page that comes up what the 'privacy type' is- if it says open to all then you can view it.

Facebook will be able to tell you who set it up, who the members are etc and they are pretty good at responding to stuff like this.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: stevenreader on January 14, 2010, 07:53:57 PM
We had an incident like this earlier in the year with a member of staff on an 'I hate _______' group page. The creators were excluded for e-bullying staff, letters were sent home and meetings with parents of all group members organised. I hope your school takes a hardline as well.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Marie Louise on January 14, 2010, 08:00:07 PM
Will Facebook tell me who created the page or will privacy settings prevent this?
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Evlinda on January 14, 2010, 08:07:24 PM
If you can't access it and you have to go through Facebook they can tell you who created it and who the members are- i would go through your school - you may find this speeds it up and as previously stated- depending on what people have written it could be a police matter- so as the previous post said- ensure your school take a hard line on this.  Speak to your line manager and write down this evening exactly what happened when the student told you today and pass this on- asking for prompt action.  It maybe that the ICT dept can help with the actual contact with Facebook.  This is also a union issue (i would have thought) so speak to your union rep tomorrow if you haven't done so already.  If the student is in one of your classes then, if it was me i would refuse to teach them- this should go without saying.  They should be moved classes after they have been dealt with (if they are still at the school).

Could you speak to the pupil who told you about it and ask them more- they will probably know who has set it up- someone who has done something like this won't be able to keep quiet.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: HB100 on January 14, 2010, 08:15:40 PM
I am happy to check for you, email me your real name, I can check then copy/paste into word and email back to you.  Let me know.

We are having a nightmare with it at work at the moment, we have 2 groups about the HT and the size of his appendage (!!) and one boy was assaulted last week and there are groups organising retaliation - not easy to unpick.  Police are being very supportive.

My email is:
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Blue Square Thing on January 14, 2010, 08:40:39 PM
If it makes you feel better, I had one about me that was nasty :-)

There is a button you can click to report - if you have a couple of nice children they can find specifically where it is and do this for you.

But that didn't seem to work to prompt FB, so if you check their conditions of use there's a bunch of stuff about not doing stuff that's nasty - oh, managed to find the e-mail so this is the sections I quoted, but that was in the summer and they do change their conditions of use pretty regularly:

Your terms of use ( state:

3.6 You will not post content that is hateful, threatening, pornographic, or that contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.

I consider the above group to be both hateful and threatening as it is a clear personal attack on myself.

3.8 You will not use Facebook to do anything unlawful, misleading, malicious, or discriminatory.

5.1 You will not post content or take any action on Facebook that infringes someone else's rights or otherwise violates the law.

The group is both misleading and malicious and almost certainly unlawful as it is clearly attempting to defame me and deny me my right to employment.

3.9 You will not facilitate or encourage any violations of this Statement.

The user who set up the group is clearly in breach of this as, by allowing it to remain on the site, are any moderators who have ignored anonymous reports sent about the group (I know of at least one report having been sent).

You just need to give them the url of the group.

Whether or not you want to then follow it up in school or, potentially, with the police is up to you. Depends on what they're saying. Screenshots might be useful evidence - they seem to like using photos of themselves as avatars...
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Marie Louise on January 15, 2010, 04:46:38 PM
All sorted . The student who created the page and the students who posted comments have been appropriately punished and the page has been taken down.

Thanks to all of you who offered your support and shared your experiences .

Have a good weekend.

Marie :)
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Kate Russell on January 16, 2010, 03:52:55 PM
This is one of the most poignant threads we have ever had I think. I was not around when the thread was going on (sorry) so have only just red it. I am distressed that Marie-Louise (and others) have had such experiences, but I am pleased that she was able to use this forum to raise the matter and that those of you with insight and useful exeprience and suggestions were able to help her. I am so relived that there was a happy ending to this and that Marie-Louise was able to enjoy her weekend!

Well done to you all. The power of SLN!
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Graham on January 16, 2010, 05:50:11 PM

I agree entirely- well done SLNers on dealing with this thread!
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: David Rogers on January 17, 2010, 04:21:55 PM
Hi Marie,

Happy to hear that the issue has been resolved. Thank you to all for the tips and advice.

Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: phill.monk on January 17, 2010, 06:24:30 PM
Having a surname like Monk helps me in some ways, as all groups associated with "Mr. Monk" are all about the TV  program Monk lol.

glad to hear everything got sorted out above, E-Bullying is something we all need to be prepared for.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: HB100 on January 17, 2010, 06:49:36 PM
It does not hurt to google yourself once in a while.  I also occassionally check rate my teacher for abusive comments relating to staff at my school.